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Old 15th December 2010, 05:19   #10501  |  Link
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I had an LG Blu-ray burner fail on me after only 5 months. I blame most of on burning at Max speed though. Burn at 4x to get great value out of your drive.
I always burn at 2x....but I fear it is my burner, went to office max, and picked up a three pack of Verbatim came home backed up The Last Airbender and it skips as well....that is four in a row, they all play fine until the 40 to 45 minute mark then the picture will pause and skip ahead 30-45 seconds....if I leave the display up on the screen it continues to count while the picture is paused, then the picture will jump ahead to where the counter is....I have a two year warranty from Dell, but don't know if they will cover that.
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Hi!

Have you tried running a cleaning disc on your player and/or burner?
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Old 15th December 2010, 06:25   #10503  |  Link
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Hi!

Have you tried running a cleaning disc on your player and/or burner?
No I have not....it is not my player, I have three including the kids PS3 and the discs skip at the same spots on all three players....I thought it was bad media, but I purchased new today, and it does the same thing....I'll try cleaning the burner, I got it for fathers day this year, and did over 30 back-ups with zero problems....now have done four in a row from two different batches of Verbatim BD-R 25GB that skip regardless of what you play them in.
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@humphammer, Are you a smoker? I was once upon a time. I fear that is what ultimately killed my first NEC drive. Optical technology doesn't like Cigarette smoke...
Thankfully, february makes 2 years without smoking Saves me money to buy things I like. E.g. Computer hardware
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Just throwing this out there but I just did Resident Evil and while previewing the original BD disk, I got to the elevator scene and it started breaking up really bad. I finally ejected the disk but when I put it back in there was a copy protection error when it tried to play. I unplugged the player and waited a minute before plugging it up. The disk now plays but when it gets to the elevator scene it breaks up agian. When I ripped the disk I had no problems and I was afraid that the BD_RB recode was going to crash but it finished with no problems and plays perfectly. When I was playing the original disk the 24P playback was activated, and now I wonder if the disk was slightly damaged just enough to throw off the framerate and make it break up. Just out of curiosity what happens when you use BD_RB that leaves out the 24P playback information?
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@humphammer, Are you a smoker? I was once upon a time. I fear that is what ultimately killed my first NEC drive. Optical technology doesn't like Cigarette smoke...
Thankfully, february makes 2 years without smoking Saves me money to buy things I like. E.g. Computer hardware
No, my wife is but NEVER smokes in the house....good you quit wish I could get her to, but nicotine is a powerful drug. I have an old DVD burner that between backing up my DVD collection and converting years of home movies from VHS tape to DVD has probably burned over 1,000 discs and I have never cleaned it, nor had a problem.
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Old 15th December 2010, 13:54   #10507  |  Link
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Hi Guys, I am very new at this video encoding subject and have been playing with BD Rebuilder for a couple of weeks.

Firstly maybe a few words about my hardware:

Computer used for encoding: Intel quad core Q9400
Burner: Pioneer

Player: HTPC (Intel i3 powered) running Arcsoft Total Media Theatre 3
Player: Pioneer
Server: Server 2008R2 serving videos to above HTPC

Ripping Software: Anydvd

Although I have successfully backed up a few BDs I am finding some strange problems:

Currently I have been backing up each BD disc three ways: BD25, BD9 for storing on a server for playback via the HTPC, BD5 for storing on a regular DVD

The BD25 is a full disc backup. BD9 also a full disc backup. BD5 is a movie only backup.

Generally the BD5s work very well.

The BD25s work well, although just now I have tried to do a backup of The A Team and I get a mixture of English and German. The English contains a voice over which reads the stars names etc. Occassionally the people seem to speak what sounds like German. At the beginning of the movie there is a preview for : Knight & Day, Wall Street 2 and someother movie about a runaway train. The sound for Knight & Day and Wall Street 2 is non existant.

The BD9 version of the backup will not display the main menu for the movie.

I have had a problem with the menus not working on a number of disks including Sex & The City 2, Legion, The Backup Plan. I have burnt the BD9 image onto a disc and this also does not show the menus when played through the Pioneer player.

Am I missing something???

Many thanks for your help in advance.

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Old 15th December 2010, 15:07   #10508  |  Link
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@ Ozpol---Quote: Am I missing something???

OK, I will give it a go since I'm just waiting for a response for my post above. If you are backing up to a BD-5 or even a BD-9 (Dvd+R or DVD+R DL) then BD_RB is converterting the video to AVCHD format, which really screws up the menu's and most of the HD audio streams in order to get it down to a manageable size. You really need to do a movie only when using BD_RB to fit onto this kind of disk. Doing a "Full Backup" to a BD-25 will pretty much make a complete backup of the whole disk but sometimes depending on the kind of java menus and the secondary HD audio and video streams it creates problems with different STB (set top box) players. It is a "CF" that is a constantly changing battlefield because of the encryption and also the firmware that is ever evolving because of it. I have for the most part had no problems just doing Movie Only to BD-9's but I see reports from others about audio issues and blocky output. My encoding computer is not used for anything else and is not being used while its busy encoding and seems to do fine, I wonder if these other problems are from people multitasking while encoding? Good luck with your projects, I can't really help with the streaming server stuff, don't use it. seeya worknstiff
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Just throwing this out there but I just did Resident Evil and while previewing the original BD disk, I got to the elevator scene and it started breaking up really bad. I finally ejected the disk but when I put it back in there was a copy protection error when it tried to play. I unplugged the player and waited a minute before plugging it up. The disk now plays but when it gets to the elevator scene it breaks up agian. When I ripped the disk I had no problems and I was afraid that the BD_RB recode was going to crash but it finished with no problems and plays perfectly. When I was playing the original disk the 24P playback was activated, and now I wonder if the disk was slightly damaged just enough to throw off the framerate and make it break up. Just out of curiosity what happens when you use BD_RB that leaves out the 24P playback information?
I'm not sure what you mean by "leaves out the 24P playback information". If I understand correctly you're talking about a player setting -- which should have no effect on BD-RB.
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I have come across a problem. This has happened on two different PC's one running Vista the other XP Pro. Tried two times on the XP Pro and then got the same results on the Vista one. Its the Die Another Day US disc from the volume one set. I have all the helper progams and settings as listed on the first post on both machines.

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Code:
[03:53:03] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
  - Source:  DIEANOTHERDAY
  - Input BD size: 36.90 GB
  - Approximate total content: [04:14:23.464]
  - Target BD size: 22.90 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
  - Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[03:53:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [03:53:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
 - [03:55:27] Reencoding: VID_00028 (1 of 56)
 - [03:55:27] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 92,908 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,247 Kbs
 - [03:55:28] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:07:18] Video Encode complete
 - [04:07:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:07:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:08:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
 - [04:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00029 (2 of 56)
 - [04:10:26] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 42,408 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,252 Kbs
 - [04:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:15:40] Video Encode complete
 - [04:15:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:15:40] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:16:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
 - [04:17:03] Reencoding: VID_00030 (3 of 56)
 - [04:17:03] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 40,730 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,306 Kbs
 - [04:17:03] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:22:02] Video Encode complete
 - [04:22:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:22:02] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:22:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
 - [04:22:31] Reencoding: VID_00031 (4 of 56)
 - [04:22:31] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,354 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,245 Kbs
 - [04:22:31] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:23:18] Video Encode complete
 - [04:23:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:23:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:23:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
 - [04:23:55] Reencoding: VID_00032 (5 of 56)
 - [04:23:55] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 24,934 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,248 Kbs
 - [04:23:55] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:27:22] Video Encode complete
 - [04:27:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:27:22] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:27:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
 - [04:27:52] Reencoding: VID_00034 (6 of 56)
 - [04:27:52] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,824 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,752 Kbs
 - [04:27:52] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:31:34] Video Encode complete
 - [04:31:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:31:34] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:31:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
 - [04:31:55] Reencoding: VID_00035 (7 of 56)
 - [04:31:55] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,551 frames
   - Bitrate: 10,678 Kbs
 - [04:31:55] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:35:17] Video Encode complete
 - [04:35:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:35:17] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:35:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
 - [04:36:46] Reencoding: VID_00130 (8 of 56)
 - [04:36:46] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 16,438 frames
   - Bitrate: 12,137 Kbs
 - [04:36:46] Reencoding: VID_00130, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:49:52] Video Encode complete
 - [04:49:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:49:52] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:50:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
 - [04:50:56] Reencoding: VID_00131 (9 of 56)
 - [04:50:56] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,140 frames
   - Bitrate: 12,023 Kbs
 - [04:50:56] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 1 of 1
 - [04:51:53] Video Encode complete
 - [04:51:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [04:51:53] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [04:51:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00132]
 - [04:52:01] Reencoding: VID_00132 (10 of 56)
 - [04:52:01] Collecting video information
  - Encode failed.  Retrying.
  - Encode failed.  Retrying.
  - Reached retry limit.  Aborting.
  - BD-Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
  - Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
  - AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
  - HAALI Splitter:  Ok
  - FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
  - FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
  - FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec":  Ok
  - FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec":  Ok
  - X264:  Ok
  - AFTEN:  Ok
  - FAAC:  Ok
  - MP4BOX:  Ok
  - WAVI:  Ok
  - TSMUXER:  Ok
[04:52:04] - Failed video encode, aborted
inf file
Code:
[Status]
LABEL=DIEANOTHERDAY
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39618241495
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=38822092800
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.612871609667576
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=chi;eng;jpn;zho;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=9
[00028]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1455005290
RATE=3247
NSTART=27000000
NEND=166500000
NSIZE=1435324416
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00029]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=665093527
RATE=3252
NSTART=27000000
NEND=90675360
NSIZE=651761664
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00030]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=648713675
RATE=3306
NSTART=27000000
NEND=88155360
NSIZE=642539520
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00031]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=99453941
RATE=3245
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36540000
NSIZE=95526912
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00032]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=390570976
RATE=3248
NSTART=27000000
NEND=64437120
NSIZE=384036864
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00034]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=331113997
RATE=11752
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36053280
NSIZE=317442048
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00035]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=278743657
RATE=10678
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35540640
NSIZE=271736832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00130]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=1441249980
RATE=12137
NSTART=27000000
NEND=57852000
NSIZE=1412358144
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00131]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=100666427
RATE=12023
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29139360
NSIZE=99323904
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00132]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=92988607
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Old 15th December 2010, 18:40   #10511  |  Link
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No, my wife is but NEVER smokes in the house....good you quit wish I could get her to, but nicotine is a powerful drug. I have an old DVD burner that between backing up my DVD collection and converting years of home movies from VHS tape to DVD has probably burned over 1,000 discs and I have never cleaned it, nor had a problem.
That's quite a life for a burner. I've had one like that, and I have two quickly approaching 1000 burns.

She'll quit one day. Circumstances were just right for me. I haven't looked back
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That's quite a life for a burner. I've had one like that, and I have two quickly approaching 1000 burns.

She'll quit one day. Circumstances were just right for me. I haven't looked back
My Sony BWU-200S has been burning BDs since I bought it back in 2008 -- at lease one a day and sometimes more... not a problem to date (other than an occasional screwup that is centered located between the keyboard and the chair).
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Old 15th December 2010, 18:50   #10513  |  Link
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Quote: I'm not sure what you mean by "leaves out the 24P playback information". If I understand correctly you're talking about a player setting -- which should have no effect on BD-RB.
__________________When my player Panasonic DMP BDT-350 and other players play the original disks they always show 24P in the status on the TV, but when playing rebuilt disk I never see the 24P icon so I believe that the disk doesn't output 24P (24fps) or the TV would show it as such. Where does the disk store this framrate info?
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Quote: I'm not sure what you mean by "leaves out the 24P playback information". If I understand correctly you're talking about a player setting -- which should have no effect on BD-RB.
__________________When my player Panasonic DMP BDT-350 and other players play the original disks they always show 24P in the status on the TV, but when playing rebuilt disk I never see the 24P icon so I believe that the disk doesn't output 24P (24fps) or the TV would show it as such. Where does the disk store this framrate info?
It's stored in the M2TS file as a part of the stream, it's stored in the CLPI file for each M2TS, and it's stored in the MPLS file that might reference multiple MPLS files.

The only time it might change would be on a 480i stream that is telecined and is not being inverse telecined or when you have selected to convert to 720p. All others are set exactly the same framerate as they are in the original. The only thing that might change would be the encoding (MPEG or VC-1 will be converted to AVC) -- but that doesn't affect the frame rate of "progressive/interlaced" status.
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I want to backup all the Harry potter movies to main movie only. I've done this in the past, only to discover critical english subtitles were removed. E.g. Avatar, Hidalgo, 2012, etc. Were there any necessary English subtitles in the harry potter movies? I don't think there were, but I'm not sure. Is there a website that can tell me things like that?
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I want to backup all the Harry potter movies to main movie only. I've done this in the past, only to discover critical english subtitles were removed. E.g. Avatar, Hidalgo, 2012, etc. Were there any necessary English subtitles in the harry potter movies? I don't think there were, but I'm not sure. Is there a website that can tell me things like that?
My recommendation is to always keep all subtitles. They are small enough that there really is no benefit to removing them. You never know when the subtitles are meant to be "forced" when foreign languages are spoken in the film.
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Well there's a problem LOL! I backed them all up to MKV 7.98Gb with Ripbot264 a while back. And didn't keep the subs. See, I don't recall any foreign languages being spoken. Now I want to convert them to dvd-5, and am uncertain if it's even worth doing. I guess I'll find out :S
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My Sony BWU-200S has been burning BDs since I bought it back in 2008 -- at lease one a day and sometimes more... not a problem to date (other than an occasional screwup that is centered located between the keyboard and the chair).
I purchased yet another three pack of Verbatim BD-25GB's and backed up Ramona and Beezus, which was only 19.5 GB so BD Rebuilder didn't have to do it's thing....I got the same results this time after only 12 minutes into the movie and then intermittenly there after....so it has to be either the burner, or Imgburn....regardless that's five coasters in a row....guess I need to call Dell.

BTW anyone have any experience with Matsushita burners which I believe is what Dell uses?
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Probably the burner then. I'd have um buy you new discs too. That's total BS! Assuming you're under warranty
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Quote: The only thing that might change would be the encoding (MPEG or VC-1 will be converted to AVC) -- but that doesn't affect the frame rate of "progressive/interlaced" status.

I think maybe that it only plays in 24P mode on real BD disks. When I backed up Avatar, I backed it up to BD-25 and it shows 24P playback but when burned to BD-9 AVCHD disk the 24P playback is not shown. I think maybe it is limited to BD only. 24P playback seems to have more color depth or sharpness it seems to me. thanks Jdobbs for the info and the great program, seeya worknstiff
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