4K UHD burned content Ps5 compatibility. help

[infinitesyrup]

Hello creative minds!

I'm posting this thread in the hope of getting the right help.

I'm trying to author my sister's 4K wedding video (88GB) onto a BDXL 100GB Verbatim Blu-ray disc that will play on a PlayStation 5.

I've been working on this project for over a month and still haven’t been able to get it to work properly...

A friend of mine who has access to Scenarist UHD is helping me.
We’ve learned that in order for the disc to work on the PS5, the authoring process must be very strict and fully UHD Blu-ray compliant.

Her is what we've followed so far:

- HEVC / H.265 codec
- Main 10 Profile @ Level 5.1 or 5.2
- UHD Blu-ray structure with BDMV + CERTIFICATE folders
- Finalized disc burned to a 100GB BD-R XL(Verbatim) using ImgBurn (UDF 2.50)

Still, the PS5 doesn’t recognize the disc, it does spins but after 4 seconds it writes that the disc is not recognized.

We read that the PS5 can read BD-R XL discs*, but *only if the authoring is 100% spec-compliant and professionally authored - which is why we’re using Scenarist UHD.

We think the issue might be somewhere in the workflow (asset encoding, muxing, or maybe burning settings).

If anyone here has *successfully authored a UHD disc playable on PS5* - especially using Scenarist UHD - we will appreciate it in ways you cannot imagine!. Any tips, guidance, or even a sample workflow would mean the world to us

Thank you in advance !

[cubicibo]

We read that the PS5 can read BD-R XL discs*, but *only if the authoring is 100% spec-compliant and professionally authored - which is why we’re using Scenarist UHD.

[citation needed]

AFAIK most players will play back a BD-R XL if and only if it does not make use of the third layer. Very few players will handle the third layer, those are generally DVRs or high-end products (UB9000).

As to your video encode, you must be aware the UHD BD format specifies a set of restrictions on HEVC level 5.x, I don't think you can use the default 5.1 settings and expect it to work. You can use the recommended x265 settings of DVD-Logic as a start.

[ocean]

Hi, models that support BD-XL 100 GiB you can find the Panasonic DP-UB450 and the 150, the important thing is to fill more than 66 GiB, I don't know about the PS5, Sony 700 and 800 models plays bdxl discs that contain less than 66gb data flawlessly :

Blu-ray.com forum

videohelp

[palestina]

As of today, the only players that read BDXL discs are PANASONIC.

Specifically, the 450 and the 900. I have both and can guarantee they do. The 450 with some issues, and the 900 without any (the only one being that it doesn't support Dolby Vision).

As @ocean points out, the discs must be larger than 66 GB. If they don't reach that "weight," you can add a dead file to any CERTIFICATE folder.

There are also some LG players that play BDXLs, but only dual-layer ones (no larger than 60 GB).

[infinitesyrup]

Hello guys,
i thank you all for answering!

Unfortunately non of the suggstions worked on the ps5...multiple discs were trown away because of that lol..i still do belive that it is an authoring procedure that must be very stricked and profesionally done.
As ive wrote, multiple people from this industry wrote to me that it is possible to do so providing that the authoring process is done right.
The thing is that those people(freelancers) require a HUGE amount of money for them to do the authoring for me..
So that's why i decided to try a do it myself, and i have no gave up yet! (haha)

If anyone here has other tips or guidence to me, please write or DM me.

[cubicibo]

You don't answer the concerns or remarks expressed in our messages. If everything fails, your encoding settings may be plain wrong. If you went with level 5.2, then it can only fail as UHD BD only supports level 5.1.

[infinitesyrup]

Originally Posted by cubicibo

You don't answer the concerns or remarks expressed in our messages. If everything fails, your encoding settings may be plain wrong. If you went with level 5.2, then it can only fail as UHD BD only supports level 5.1.

I did it at 5.1 level, didn't worked unfortunately sir...

[Emulgator]

mediainfo of the assets please ?

[infinitesyrup]

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
--------------- ------------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 79,181 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries: BT.2020 / Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000.0000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level: 1123 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level: 83 cd/m2

[cubicibo]

Where are the VBV parameters?

[infinitesyrup]

What is it ?

[cubicibo]

Your encode settings must specify --vbv-maxrate and --vbv-bufsize appropriately to meet the UHD specs (chroma loc also needs to be correct, among many other things).

Anyhow if at level 5.1 with wrong vbv all your players failed to even load the disc then either it is badly authored or it is just what we told you: some players will refuse to load BD-R XL under certain conditions.

[infinitesyrup]

Is it this ?

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
--------------- ------------- ------------- ------------- -------------
00000.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:01:00.294 80,042,664,000 88,197 kbps

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------------- ------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:11:10.336 76,795 kbps 134,767 kbps 00:09:31.070 102,441 kbps 00:03:48.102 99,293 kbps 00:03:44.766 400,351 bytes 1,948,941 bytes 00:07:12.682
2 0:11:10.336 0:10:25.833 88,781 kbps 128,514 kbps 00:12:14.733 101,011 kbps 00:14:44.383 97,917 kbps 00:14:03.425 462,863 bytes 1,936,722 bytes 00:14:54.935
3 0:21:36.169 0:11:47.289 76,934 kbps 118,255 kbps 00:29:48.286 102,281 kbps 00:29:45.575 98,127 kbps 00:29:45.575 401,098 bytes 1,872,634 bytes 00:29:45.617
4 0:33:23.459 0:12:39.925 82,000 kbps 122,196 kbps 00:33:48.568 103,872 kbps 00:33:44.564 99,189 kbps 00:33:44.272 427,508 bytes 1,948,943 bytes 00:34:03.833
5 0:46:03.385 0:09:09.674 89,385 kbps 118,932 kbps 00:52:57.674 103,498 kbps 00:48:41.919 97,950 kbps 00:53:59.986 466,011 bytes 1,933,203 bytes 00:52:58.550
6 0:55:13.059 0:12:24.702 90,134 kbps 117,739 kbps 01:05:47.818 101,913 kbps 00:56:09.616 98,466 kbps 01:07:26.751 469,919 bytes 1,936,299 bytes 01:05:35.473
7 1:07:37.762 0:09:58.264 89,030 kbps 119,242 kbps 01:10:51.830 100,812 kbps 01:14:53.864 98,944 kbps 01:10:05.159 464,160 bytes 1,955,882 bytes 01:14:15.367
8 1:17:36.026 0:08:39.560 86,720 kbps 121,385 kbps 01:18:58.275 101,510 kbps 01:21:39.853 98,571 kbps 01:18:35.877 452,118 bytes 1,939,384 bytes 01:22:55.804
9 1:26:15.587 0:08:58.913 79,634 kbps 134,274 kbps 01:33:43.034 100,200 kbps 01:34:02.011 97,716 kbps 01:34:02.011 415,177 bytes 1,890,170 bytes 01:35:03.447
10 1:35:14.500 0:09:46.460 78,279 kbps 122,790 kbps 01:43:18.442 102,001 kbps 01:43:15.439 97,411 kbps 01:44:26.218 408,110 bytes 1,935,457 bytes 01:35:42.403
11 1:45:00.961 0:08:59.622 82,916 kbps 129,214 kbps 01:51:20.173 100,884 kbps 01:52:53.433 98,208 kbps 01:52:53.433 432,288 bytes 1,932,949 bytes 01:47:39.411
12 1:54:00.583 0:06:59.710 7,090 kbps 33,588 kbps 01:59:49.432 30,619 kbps 01:59:46.179 27,448 kbps 01:59:45.469 36,977 bytes 797,641 bytes 01:59:48.514

[cubicibo]

Not really. Anyhow these bitrates are under the theoretical limit so you should still get an image. If not I blame it on authoring, or the problem highlighted by three us initially.

As it is KNOWN that BD-R XL will not consistently work on some players, maybe consider to use BD66. Do you really need those 100 Mbps? A veryslow encode with the right settings, given the content, should yield comparable quality at a much lower bitrate. At 70 Mbps you would have a solid encode very close to filling a BD66.