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Old 1st August 2009, 01:58   #4281  |  Link
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i just did another movie to bd25 with 25.04 beta, Man On Fire and there is an audio sync problem. this is the 3rd movie ive done that has this audio problem, its fine at the beginning then like 15 minutes into it there is audio lag for like 2 seconds throughout the rest of the movie, i just use default settings on everything. I was wondering if there is anything i need to change for settings to prevent this from happening? i have done several movies that played flawlessly, just wanted to know if its the movie or am i doing something wrong with the bd rebuilder program?
You did not say how you are playing this back, PC or standalone. Is this a movie only or full backup?
Is it a multi .m2ts movie? Does the BD-RB .m2ts play in sync if viewed with MPC?
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Old 1st August 2009, 02:05   #4282  |  Link
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i used image burn to make an iso, played it on powerdvd9 and i did a full backup bd25 is there other ways i should be testing this? im sorry i dont know what MPC is
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Old 1st August 2009, 02:22   #4283  |  Link
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i used image burn to make an iso, played it on powerdvd9 and i did a full backup bd25 is there other ways i should be testing this? im sorry i dont know what MPC is
MPC = Media Player Classic

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Old 1st August 2009, 02:29   #4284  |  Link
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yea i tried it with media player classic, it has the same audio lag problem, is mpc suppposed to be better then powerdvd?
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Old 1st August 2009, 02:45   #4285  |  Link
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yea i tried it with media player classic, it has the same audio lag problem, is mpc suppposed to be better then powerdvd?
No just an alternative to PDVD to verify both has async. Is this movie a multi .m2ts to make up the movie?
If so, you could try Clownbd with eac3to on the movie, have it generate a new Blu-Ray movie, and then check that output's .m2ts file for audio sync. ( this is for movie only though ) Some multi .m2ts movies can have audio gaps, but I would be suprised that BD-RB did not overcome this.
Does the original have audio sync issues?
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Old 1st August 2009, 02:58   #4286  |  Link
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the original does not have any audio sync problems at all. what do you mean by if it is a multi .m2ts to make up the movie? what is clownbd?
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Old 1st August 2009, 03:02   #4287  |  Link
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i have also done benjamin button to bd25 bull backup with the same audio sync issue. i also did benjamin button to bd9 "movie only", burned it to a dual layer and played on a ps3 with the same audio sync problem, is there some settings i need to adjust for the backup?
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Old 1st August 2009, 04:05   #4288  |  Link
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"Originally Posted by jdobbs View Post
I picked up Watchmen a couple of days ago but haven't had time to test it yet. I'll run it tonight."--Thanks

"Watchman has two .mpls, 00101.mpls which is 3:08:01 long and includes the bonus features. 00100.mpls is 3:06:28 and is the movie only. Just need to make sure you select the correct .mpls for the movie only, since BD-RB will default to the longer version, which is NOT the one to use for movie only. I did not try a full backup of this disc, but the movie only BD-9 looked really good."
I believe I tried this as well and had issues,but I would also prefer a full disc backup.I am trying the movie only to be sure thanks!

Yea I just tried Movie Only again and got the following:

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[23:02:31] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 30.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:08:01.770]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:02:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:02:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [23:10:33] Reencoding: VID_00500 (1 of 25)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.

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Old 1st August 2009, 04:25   #4289  |  Link
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Is 10:11 the correct setting? I thought that was for 704x480 sources and 8:9 was for 720x480... Does it always stretch or is this something on one particular disc?
So far every video that is supposed to be 4:3 done with 8:9 is stretched on the PS3 to 16:9. I found 10:11 when I googled trying to figure out why it was always stretching it. This guide is where I found it list 10:11 as the SAR for NTSC 4:3 720x480. I realized it was the way the video was encoded as I tried using the video file alone with tsMuxer and the outcome was still stretched. For some reason when i put that SAR of 10:11 in, the video always played correctly in the PS3. I checked this on two different ones to be sure it was not just the PS3, 8:9 stretched on both of them and 10:11 did not.
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Old 1st August 2009, 04:51   #4290  |  Link
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@Jake802;
You are not selecting the correct playlist. Select "Mode" in BD-RB and then select "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist"., and select the shorter one ( 3:06:28 ). The .m2ts order should be 00500.m2ts, 00501.m2ts, 00502.m2ts, 00503, etc.. to 00524.m2ts.
Watchmen is VC-1, so you need to have ffdshow configured to decode it correctly. WMP 11 may also help for this.
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Old 1st August 2009, 04:59   #4291  |  Link
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the original does not have any audio sync problems at all. what do you mean by if it is a multi .m2ts to make up the movie? what is clownbd?
Check your original with BDInfo, and you will see 1 or more .m2ts files for the main movie.(http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/...g/BDInfo.shtml)
Clownbd is just an alternative tool to try if you have a multi .m2ts movie. BD-RB should be all you need, but you could try (http://www.clownbd.com/) clownbd just to see if it will make a difference.
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Old 1st August 2009, 05:19   #4292  |  Link
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@Jake802;
You are not selecting the correct playlist. Select "Mode" in BD-RB and then select "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist"., and select the shorter one ( 3:06:28 ). The .m2ts order should be 00500.m2ts, 00501.m2ts, 00502.m2ts, 00503, etc.. to 00524.m2ts.
Watchmen is VC-1, so you need to have ffdshow configured to decode it correctly. WMP 11 may also help for this.
I tried both 1st:
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[23:53:41] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 30.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:08:01.770]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Encoding cancelled.
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[23:54:05] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 30.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:08:01.770]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:54:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:54:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [00:02:48] Reencoding: VID_00500 (1 of 25)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[00:05:54]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

2nd:
[00:06:49] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 32.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:06:28.385]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[00:06:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:06:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [00:15:02] Reencoding: VID_00500 (1 of 25)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[00:18:00]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

I thought I had ffdshow configured correctly, could you tell me what I need to do?
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Old 1st August 2009, 06:30   #4293  |  Link
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I've been having a problem with Fast and Furious. This is the first movie that I've had problems with. Downloaded BD-RB 25.04 beta and I just finished doing Curious Case of Benjamin Button in BD-25, no problems at all. I am runing windows 7 build 72.01. This is the issue:

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[00:22:16] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: FAST_AND_FURIOUS
- Input BD size: 45.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:40.004]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[00:22:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:22:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
- [00:22:18] Reencoding: VID_00238 (1 of 15)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[00:25:20] - Failed video encode, aborted
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Old 1st August 2009, 07:58   #4294  |  Link
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What settings are you using?
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It adds an additional unneeded step for other video, so ony VC-1 field based interlaced (the ones with issues).
Will the .mkv workaround also help with hybrid progressive / interlaced VC-1 sources (as often found in the Extras)? That would be great.

(Is there a specific reason why not to use eac3to for the conversion? It has solved audio sync issues which I posted in the past)

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Old 1st August 2009, 08:09   #4296  |  Link
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I've been having a problem with Fast and Furious. This is the first movie that I've had problems with. Downloaded BD-RB 25.04 beta and I just finished doing Curious Case of Benjamin Button in BD-25, no problems at all. I am runing windows 7 build 72.01. This is the issue:

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[00:22:16] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: FAST_AND_FURIOUS
- Input BD size: 45.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:40.004]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[00:22:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:22:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
- [00:22:18] Reencoding: VID_00238 (1 of 15)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[00:25:20] - Failed video encode, aborted
This movie has lots of interlaced VC1 files and by lots I mean 99% of the extras currently there is no way for BD-RB to do these and leaving untouched uses most of the BD25 leaving no room for the movie.

There may have been a solution found if you dont mind waiting for the next version hopefully in a couple of days.
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Old 1st August 2009, 13:51   #4297  |  Link
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i just did another movie to bd25 with 25.04 beta, Man On Fire and there is an audio sync problem. this is the 3rd movie ive done that has this audio problem, its fine at the beginning then like 15 minutes into it there is audio lag for like 2 seconds throughout the rest of the movie, i just use default settings on everything. I was wondering if there is anything i need to change for settings to prevent this from happening? i have done several movies that played flawlessly, just wanted to know if its the movie or am i doing something wrong with the bd rebuilder program?
Movie-only or full disc? BD-5/9 or BD-25? Are you keeping HD audio? DTS or AC3? Are you reencoding to AC3?
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I thought I had ffdshow configured correctly, could you tell me what I need to do?
When you configure FFDSHOW, what do you have selected as the decoder for VC-1?
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This movie has lots of interlaced VC1 files and by lots I mean 99% of the extras currently there is no way for BD-RB to do these and leaving untouched uses most of the BD25 leaving no room for the movie.

There may have been a solution found if you dont mind waiting for the next version hopefully in a couple of days.
Are you telling me that it is 99% field-based interlaced? That just sounds really unlikely. If it is normal interlaced, there shouldn't be an issue. If there is an issue, the "**" will be shown next to fps in the source list. If it isn't there, it should decode/reencode without any problems.
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Will the .mkv workaround also help with hybrid progressive / interlaced VC-1 sources (as often found in the Extras)? That would be great.

(Is there a specific reason why not to use eac3to for the conversion? It has solved audio sync issues which I posted in the past)
I don't know -- in hundreds of discs I don't think I've seen a hybrid progressive/interlaced VC-1 source. What I had seen reported before turned out not to be when I scanned the files and found no pulldown flags. It was field-based interlaced. Can you point one out? It would probably end up with audio sync issues...
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