Windows 7, x264, and Media Center Extenders - Page 3

Snowknight26 · 22nd January 2009, 05:21

It does have some limitations:
No TrueHD, no DTS, no deblocking (!), no runtimes for .m2ts files, no track switching (?), no VC-1 in .m2ts (works when haali media splitter is installed though, but I think that breaks H.264 in .m2ts, can't remember on the latter issue).

LoRd_MuldeR · 22nd January 2009, 05:28

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Originally Posted by Snowknight26

no deblocking (!)

No deblocking for h.264 ???

Since deblocking is a mandatory part of h.264, that would mean their h.264 is broken...

Toti · 22nd January 2009, 05:29

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Originally Posted by Snowknight26

It does have some limitations:
No TrueHD, no DTS, no deblocking (!), no runtimes for .m2ts files, no track switching (?), no VC-1 in .m2ts (works when haali media splitter is installed though, but I think that breaks H.264 in .m2ts, can't remember on the latter issue).

True to everything you said. If you install Haali or FFDshow it will break the AVC Windows 7 codec. The advantage of the W7 AVC codec is that it uses acceleration so well that a 1080p AVC video seems like you are manipulating a 240X120 asf video.

atreides93 · 22nd January 2009, 06:38

Yea it is rather amazing how well Windows 7's accelerated playback of h264 works. Now if only Windows 7 beta came with Windows Movie Maker...I only have DVD maker...

Snowknight26 · 22nd January 2009, 07:07

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Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

No deblocking for h.264 ???

Since deblocking is a mandatory part of h.264, that would mean their h.264 is broken...

Maybe not deblocking but there is definitely something wrong. I tried VC-1, H.264, Xvid and something else, and I'm pretty sure all of them exhibited the issue.

RunningSkittle · 22nd January 2009, 08:07

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Originally Posted by atreides93

Yea it is rather amazing how well Windows 7's accelerated playback of h264 works. Now if only Windows 7 beta came with Windows Movie Maker...I only have DVD maker...

Thats one of the "bloat" wares that MS got rid of, along with calander, mail, messenger...

It is now a part of "windows live"
http://download.live.com/?mkt=en-us

kosmonaut · 22nd January 2009, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Toti

I like the new Windows 7, it finally got to work Hardware acceleration. My .wmv do get accelerated uses about 15~25% cpu and .ts or .m2ts with AVC/AC3 uses from 1~5% CPU. Amazing that H.264 works easier and better than its native .wmv Also, note that the new media center has "Movie Library" meaning that if you open a folder drop the movie in in wmv, m2ts or ts it reads it great and has "resume" memory that was only previously available on .dvr-ms only and if you drop a .jpg file with the movie cover name it "folder.jpg" and it will appear as the cover page.

Interesting. Looks like I should take it out for a test ride after all.

nm · 22nd January 2009, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Toti

I like the new Windows 7, it finally got to work Hardware acceleration. My .wmv do get accelerated uses about 15~25% cpu and .ts or .m2ts with AVC/AC3 uses from 1~5% CPU. Amazing that H.264 works easier and better than its native .wmv

Are you perhaps using an NVIDIA GPU that doesn't have full VC-1 hardware decoding?

Toti · 23rd January 2009, 02:26

Actually I am using ATI 2600 XT. It does accelerate VC1 since Vista has CPU 50~70% and Windows 7 15~25%.

One more issue I get is the AVC/AC3 video has the time line screwup meaning that I can not fast forward or rewind with the Media Center Remote. Any suggestions?

Toti · 10th February 2009, 21:22

Windows 7 does work natively with H.264. However, H.264 containers do not FF/RR, on either .mp4 .m2ts .ts will this be fixed on the final release lets see.

However, I noticed that .mpg does work well. Just remux your AVC/AC3 from m2ts or ts into .mpg and works flawlessly.

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Toti Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 160	Actually I am using ATI 2600 XT. It does accelerate VC1 since Vista has CPU 50~70% and Windows 7 15~25%. One more issue I get is the AVC/AC3 video has the time line screwup meaning that I can not fast forward or rewind with the Media Center Remote. Any suggestions? __________________ VAIO VGX-XL3 4gig RAM, 4Tb HDD. MEDIA CENTER WINDOWS 7 simply the best!!

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Toti Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 160	Windows 7 does work natively with H.264. However, H.264 containers do not FF/RR, on either .mp4 .m2ts .ts will this be fixed on the final release lets see. However, I noticed that .mpg does work well. Just remux your AVC/AC3 from m2ts or ts into .mpg and works flawlessly. __________________ VAIO VGX-XL3 4gig RAM, 4Tb HDD. MEDIA CENTER WINDOWS 7 simply the best!!

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Snowknight26 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,426	It does have some limitations: No TrueHD, no DTS, no deblocking (!), no runtimes for .m2ts files, no track switching (?), no VC-1 in .m2ts (works when haali media splitter is installed though, but I think that breaks H.264 in .m2ts, can't remember on the latter issue).

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atreides93 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 948	Yea it is rather amazing how well Windows 7's accelerated playback of h264 works. Now if only Windows 7 beta came with Windows Movie Maker...I only have DVD maker...