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23rd May 2013, 21:58 | #17281 | Link |
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Jdobbs, i do not usually use an alternative mode in mkv(MKV Container, 1920x1080p, 640Kbps DD5.1) but the second time(below) I get no subtitles, maybe I'm missing something.
Can check? Code:
LABEL=MISTERIOS_DO_NILO VERSION=v0.44.09 (beta) SOURCE_SIZE=11256176640 SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=11256176640 TARGET_SIZE=4686086144 REDUCTION=.41631242062669 RESIZE_1080=0 RESIZE_1440=0 AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng; KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1 SUBS_TO_KEEP=por; BACKUP_MODE=1 MOVIEONLY_TYPE=10 USE_LAVF=0 INSTANCES=2 DGDECNV=-1 QUICK=0 ENCODE_STEP=0 COMPLETED=1 REBUILD_COMPLETE=1 [00000] AUDIO=100 PGS=1 APULLDOWN=0 S1440=0 VIDEO2=0 V2MBRATE=0 M2TS_TARGET=4686086144 SPLITS=2 NSIZE=0 FLINK=0 MLINK=0 |
23rd May 2013, 22:38 | #17282 | Link | |
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Look in HIDDENOPTS.TXT -- and add this hidden option: MKV_MUXSUPS=1 If the subtitles exist in the MKV, BDRB will import them automatically. |
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Writing SUPs to MKV is not the default (although it will be on the next release). Rarely use this option so I had not paid attention to the hidden option... Glad that option is no longer hidden in the next version! Code:
If the subtitles exist in the MKV, BDRB will import them automatically. |
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So have I. And it is good. Oddly, I swear I've outputted MKV with Sups embedded, without forcing any setting :S I could be mistaken.
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Nope, it's not activated. I probably am mistaken about it outputting with SUP. I greatly look forward to the auto embed feature. But the hidden option could due for now
90% of the time (Lately), I output to AVCHD BD-9 movie only. The 'Great' movies though, I backup to BD-25.
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I've been testing the Alternate Output (MKV) pretty extensively with AC3 because of recent events.. Thus far, I'm very pleased. Most of my Blu-ray originals I've used the 25GB Backup with. For when Friends and Family come over. Massive thumbs Up to Digistor for their quality BD25 disks (or Euro...disc), too! However, (Huuuuge) thanks to JDobbs and recent events, I've been able to make backups for my TV and LG player via USB. My originals are even now ..more... closely protected than before...as well as "Here, connect this Hard Drive.." I'll never replace the portable HDD, for my disks (discs), and thanks to the JDobbs, BD-RB fits many desires. Everyone should donate...it's Brilliant software by a passionate programmer!
Another note, once I moved OUTPUT_FOLDER from being after [Paths] in the config............Whooo!! Very nice option. I haven't really tried it until tonight. Good speed difference to a completely different partition as I knew!! JDobbs... Watch "Paul" (or don't)..No Matter --> Thanks............Man!!
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A few days back I did a batch queue of 3 blu-rays to BD25 format (I use custom size: 24000 for that), it turned out that the first blu-ray was perfect in size like usual, but the 2 other blu-rays turned out to be about 25.500.00.000 in size, about a GB larger than I indicated. After changing the output setting to the default BD25 mode, this problem still occurred, the size didn't even change. I checked the .inf files for the settings and it looks just like previous BD25 back-ups I did. This problem occurred with version 0.44.04 as well as 0.44.09.
The source blu-ray was a stripped criterion blu-ray with only two 400MB menu files and 1 video .m2ts of about 33GB. The output size is always between 24.000.000.000 and 24.500.000.000 just like I want it to be. The output size in this case was 25,556,638,909 bytes. Code:
[Status] LABEL= VERSION=v0.44.09 (beta) SOURCE_SIZE=36859881741 SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=36016257024 TARGET_SIZE=25165824000 REDUCTION=.675311686797229 RESIZE_1080=0 RESIZE_1440=0 AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng; KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1 SUBS_TO_KEEP=all BACKUP_MODE=0 MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0 USE_LAVF=-1 INSTANCES=1 DGDECNV=0 QUICK=0 ENCODE_STEP=0 COMPLETED=1 REBUILD_COMPLETE=1 [00274] AUDIO=1 PGS=1 APULLDOWN=0 S1440=0 VIDEO2=0 V2MBRATE=0 M2TS_TARGET=24322199283 RATE=22904 SPLITS=1 NSTART=27000000 NEND=362947275 NSIZE=24713017344 FLINK=0 MLINK=0 Code:
[05/23/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.09 (beta) [10:32:28] Source: - Input BD size: 34.33 GB - Approximate total content: [02:07:52.289] - Target BD size: 23.44 GB - Windows Version: 5.1 [2600] - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640 [10:32:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [10:32:28] Processing: VID_00274 (1 of 1) - [10:32:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00274] - [10:49:31] Reencoding video [VID_00274] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 178,993 frames - Bitrate: 22,904 Kbs - [10:49:32] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 1 of 2 - [12:45:40] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 2 of 2 - [21:15:04] Video Encode complete - [21:15:06] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio - [21:15:06] Multiplexing M2TS [21:23:13]PHASE ONE complete [21:23:13]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started - [21:23:13] Rebuilding BD file Structure [21:23:26] - Encode and Rebuild complete - WORKFILES folder removed. [21:23:27] JOB: finished. My settings: I use the LAVF decoding method because that is apparently the only one that works on Linux. Config file: Code:
[Options] VERSION=0.44.0.9 MODE=0 ENCODE_QUALITY=3 ONEPASS_ENCODING=0 AUTO_QUALITY=0 AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng; SUBS_TO_KEEP=all SD_CONVERT=0 OPEN_GOP=0 RESIZE_1080=0 RESIZE_1440=0 DEINTERLACE=1 SD_TO_1080=0 CONVERT_WIDE=0 DTS_REENCODE=0 AC3_REENCODE=0 AC3_640=1 AC3_192=0 KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1 AVCHD=1 REMOVE_WORKFILES=1 MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1 REMOVE_OUTPUT=0 USE_FILTERS=0 BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0 USE_LAVF=1 IVTC_PULLDOWN=0 ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0 UNMASK_CHAPTER=0 COMPLETION_BEEP=0 DGDECNV=0 OUTPUT_3D=0 AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0 SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0 CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24000 TARGET_SIZE=24000 [Paths] SOURCE_PATH=Y:\ WORKING_PATH=Y:\WORKING\ Code:
[Status] LABEL=AMELIE VERSION=v0.43.04 (beta) SOURCE_SIZE=37716099931 SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=37246629888 TARGET_SIZE=25165824000 REDUCTION=.663049355908482 RESIZE_1080=0 AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng; KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1 SUBS_TO_KEEP=all BACKUP_MODE=0 MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0 USE_LAVF=-1 INSTANCES=1 DGDECNV=0 QUICK=0 ENCODE_STEP=0 COMPLETED=1 REBUILD_COMPLETE=1 [00800] AUDIO=11 PGS=111 APULLDOWN=0 VIDEO2=0 V2MBRATE=0 M2TS_TARGET=24696353957 RATE=21074 SPLITS=1 NSTART=27000000 NEND=356496480 NSIZE=23924809728 FLINK=0 MLINK=0 Last edited by Yannes; 24th May 2013 at 08:10. |
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What can I say? If you tell BD-RB to output to a size that won't fit on a BD -- you'll get a size that won't fit on a BD. I'd suggest you use the default BD-25 setting. Last edited by jdobbs; 24th May 2013 at 15:11. |
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If you do as JDobbs suggests, and use the default setting (23500 MB), then there will be a little more elbow room for an undersized estimate to still fit on a BD-25 disc. I use a custom setting of 24200 MB and this almost always gives a burn size of 98% according to ImgBurn. I always use good quality media, so that edge problems (burning close to the max capacity of the disc) should be minimized. I've never detected a problem. I do occasionally get an over-sized rebuild, of course, but probably less than 10% of the time. I just reduce the target and run the process again for that title. Hope this helps. |
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Maybe not a problem right away from the initial burn/verify, but after playing the disc a few times, in and out of the disc tray and case, touching with our fingers, etc... makes the disc more susceptible to premature failure.
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I've had Taiyo Yuden discs age at the outer edge. Thankfully, the credits ended up at the edge of the disc I don't even mind undersizing by 1Gb. The difference is negligible, in my opinion. Though I have ran into a few discs, where some material could benefit from that 1Gb, if prioritizing bitrate were possible. Not really hinting here, just an observation.
Though one defect, can compromise a complete backup I no longer use those Disc booklets. Notorious for scratching discs over time. I prefer envelopes, and hard drive backups now.
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But... BD-RB under-sizes my re-encodes all the time. With the default settings I was regularly getting disc image sizes of 94% to 96% (and one 92% IIRC), which I thought was a bit small. Since I switched to 24200 MB (23.63 GB) I regularly get 98%. In fact, for the last 10 rebuilds which required re-encoding none were oversized and none were over 98.5%. Here's the list: Code:
Image size Disc fill % 24,633,278,464 98.4% 24,632,688,640 98.4% 24,549,098,440 98.1% 24,640,028,672 98.5% 24,624,824,320 98.4% 24,629,018,624 98.4% 24,472,190,976 97.8% 24,626,135,040 98.4% 24,639,075,496 98.5% 24,603,376,672 98.3% By way of comparison, I ran a couple of encodes recently after d/l the latest version of BD-RB, and I forgot to set my custom size, so the target was the default of 22.95 GB. Here's what I got: Code:
Image size Disc fill % 23,923,326,976 95.6% 23,883,546,624 95.4% All I'm saying is if you use a custom setting of 24000 MB in BD-RB it will fit virtually all the time. This isn't the right thing for everybody, but I feel it works well for me. And it's not a bug anyway, so I won't belabour the point any more. [EDIT]And I should say that ALL of my backups are High-Quality, 2-pass, Movie-Only. So it's possible that my results might not apply when doing a Full-Backup, for instance.[/EDIT] Last edited by RobertM; 24th May 2013 at 20:15. |
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Yep. Too each his/her own. The undersizing is purposeful. Whenever there is variability (especially in estimating muxing overhead, and it is truly an educated guess) I always make sure to err on the side of caution. People get mean when they spend a few hours encoding only to have the output not fit on their target (even when they use a custom size and cause the oversize themselves ).
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Yeah, I haven't used a Dual layer dvd since I got my first BD burner The BD-9 size, just seems to be agreeable. I plan to play around more though, in an attempt to save hard drive space. I have seen Excellent results under 3Gb. Typically the CGI movies.
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Here, "the country of high taxes", this type of media is still a bit expensive. |
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There is bug somewhere in there, there is no denying that. The same problem occurred with another blu-ray I tried to shrink down as well, which had an end result of 25.5m bytes. But sure, i'll do it again with BD25 mode and give some more in-depth details. Last edited by Yannes; 24th May 2013 at 21:56. |
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