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Old 4th September 2020, 15:02   #29941  |  Link
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And that means an AMD cpu, for the Intel fans
I dont follow the AMD-Intel Wars like I used to, but for most of the AMD-Intel wars, AMD offered great value, but if you really wanted the best of the best, you choose Intel, however, I believe that currently, the "Best of the best" is a top of the line AMD processor, and I even think that, price point to price point, AMD beats out Intel. Please correct me, or point me to a link where this is discussed in depth.
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Old 4th September 2020, 21:02   #29942  |  Link
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Anyone tried Aladdin (animated, 1992) UHD to 25GB UHD? I lost the subs for some reason. Unfortunately happened to delete the log too, so will have to recreate. Bummer since I did software encode with 2-pass very good quality. And wow the result really popped except for the subs..

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Old 4th September 2020, 23:01   #29943  |  Link
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Anyone tried Aladdin (animated, 1992) UHD to 25GB UHD? I lost the subs for some reason. Unfortunately happened to delete the log too, so will have to recreate. Bummer since I did software encode with 2-pass very good quality. And wow the result really popped except for the subs..

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It's not only that disc, I have the same issue with several disks, BDInfo shows subtitle streams as hidden / not referenced, and my standalone won't show them, but MPC-HC does, here is the BDInfo log:

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00800.MPLS                                                      HEVC    1:32:05 23,444,624,448  23,958,754,514  33.94   26.58   Dolby Atmos 7.1 3757Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Beetlejuice
Disc Label:     Beetlejuice UHD
Disc Size:      23,958,754,514 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS
Length:                 1:32:05.436 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   23,444,624,448 bytes
Total Bitrate:          33.94 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       26575 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 / Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0000 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level: 3941 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level: 129 cd/m2 / 

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         3757 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  3117 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   192 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   192 kbps
* Dolby Digital Audio           Japanese        192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
* Presentation Graphics         Japanese        25.001 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         English         38.004 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         French          28.175 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         German          33.634 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Spanish         29.555 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Dutch           28.504 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Chinese         28.782 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Chinese         28.185 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Korean          24.446 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Spanish         29.420 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Czech           30.117 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Thai            30.276 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Japanese        1.175 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         Italian         34.181 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Danish          26.654 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Finnish         24.970 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Norwegian       26.325 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Swedish         24.274 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         French          0.220 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         German          0.419 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         Italian         0.373 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         Spanish         0.308 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         Spanish         0.049 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         French          0.220 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00061.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:32:05.436     23,444,624,448  33,945          

...  

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00061.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x24            HEVC                                    5525.228                26,576                  18,354,894,944  99,832,043      
00061.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            Atmos           eng (English)           5525.228                3,757                   2,594,940,474   17,433,490      
00061.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             spa (Spanish)           5525.228                192                     132,610,560     863,350         
00061.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             spa (Spanish)           5525.228                192                     132,610,560     863,350         
00061.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             jpn (Japanese)          5525.228                192                     132,610,560     863,350         
00061.M2TS      4768 (0x12A0)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          5525.228                25                      17,267,507      101,971         
00061.M2TS      4769 (0x12A1)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           5525.228                38                      26,248,149      151,393         
00061.M2TS      4770 (0x12A2)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            5525.228                28                      19,459,419      112,945         
00061.M2TS      4771 (0x12A3)   0x90            PGS             deu (German)            5525.228                34                      23,230,355      134,957         
00061.M2TS      4772 (0x12A4)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           5525.228                30                      20,412,790      118,159         
00061.M2TS      4773 (0x12A5)   0x90            PGS             nld (Dutch)             5525.228                29                      19,686,968      114,037         
00061.M2TS      4774 (0x12A6)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           5525.228                29                      19,879,049      115,378         
00061.M2TS      4775 (0x12A7)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           5525.228                28                      19,466,453      113,175         
00061.M2TS      4776 (0x12A8)   0x90            PGS             kor (Korean)            5525.228                24                      16,884,302      99,147          
00061.M2TS      4777 (0x12A9)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           5525.228                29                      20,319,567      117,786         
00061.M2TS      4778 (0x12AA)   0x90            PGS             ces (Czech)             5525.228                30                      20,801,150      120,409         
00061.M2TS      4779 (0x12AB)   0x90            PGS             tha (Thai)              5525.228                30                      20,911,152      121,000         
00061.M2TS      4780 (0x12AC)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          5525.228                1                       811,880         4,790           
00061.M2TS      4781 (0x12AD)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           5525.228                34                      23,608,271      137,364         
00061.M2TS      4782 (0x12AE)   0x90            PGS             dan (Danish)            5525.228                27                      18,409,086      107,185         
00061.M2TS      4783 (0x12AF)   0x90            PGS             fin (Finnish)           5525.228                25                      17,246,052      100,547         
00061.M2TS      4784 (0x12B0)   0x90            PGS             nor (Norwegian)         5525.228                26                      18,182,226      106,048         
00061.M2TS      4785 (0x12B1)   0x90            PGS             swe (Swedish)           5525.228                24                      16,765,596      98,101          
00061.M2TS      4786 (0x12B2)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            5525.228                0                       151,636         898             
00061.M2TS      4787 (0x12B3)   0x90            PGS             deu (German)            5525.228                0                       289,499         1,703           
00061.M2TS      4788 (0x12B4)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           5525.228                0                       257,748         1,529           
00061.M2TS      4789 (0x12B5)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           5525.228                0                       212,813         1,250           
00061.M2TS      4790 (0x12B6)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           5525.228                0                       33,567          197             
00061.M2TS      4791 (0x12B7)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            5525.228                0                       151,636         898
I found the reason!!! subtitles mPID should be 12A0 and so on... but BD-RB is moving them to 1200 (like a normal BD) in the mpls files. I don't know if that is compliant with BD Specs, but you can fix it with BDEdit manually.

Additionally, files processed by NvEnc generates ginormous BDInfo reports with the legend ¨Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 / Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0000 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level: 3941 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level: 129 cd/m2 /¨ repeated ad-nausem.

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Old 5th September 2020, 00:15   #29944  |  Link
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@SquallMX: Great! Thanks for the info! Time to get the latest BDedit..

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Old 5th September 2020, 15:22   #29945  |  Link
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bye bye RTX 2070 super , the 3 week wait for my RTX 3080 will be sad , but hopefully they have made more improvements to nvenc, although noting has been said about the encode and decode cores so possibly the same, but getting the new card mainly for games as im unable to hit 144fps at 1440p with the old card and new one should
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Old 5th September 2020, 15:25   #29946  |  Link
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Old 5th September 2020, 22:47   #29947  |  Link
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I found the reason!!! subtitles mPID should be 12A0 and so on... but BD-RB is moving them to 1200 (like a normal BD) in the mpls files. I don't know if that is compliant with BD Specs, but you can fix it with BDEdit manually.
I think I might know what could be causing that. I'm pretty sure is was caused by changes made in TSMUXER (I upgraded the version). I'll get it fixed for the next release.
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Old 6th September 2020, 01:07   #29948  |  Link
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I think I might know what could be causing that. I'm pretty sure is was caused by changes made in TSMUXER (I upgraded the version). I'll get it fixed for the next release.
Would that mean that, if above fix works, I could be lazy and just set output size larger than UHD50 in BDRB and re-run it and it will automagically fix itself?

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Old 6th September 2020, 05:49   #29949  |  Link
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WOOHOO Just watched the Geforce special event. RTX 3090 CONFIRMED, goodbye GTX 1080, hello 3090. BDRB nvenc is gonna FLYYYYYYYYYYYYY on that thing right out along to say hi to tesla's speedster in space
Now I see what all the excitement is about!

NVIDIA just made EVERYTHING ELSE obsolete! Linus Tech Tips
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Meh, the special event was better but not just that. I'm only 37 and have owned my own pc for over 20years. NEVER have I ever owned the top of the line GPU in all that time. Now that I have a way of affording one, I'm getting one.

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Old 6th September 2020, 11:34   #29951  |  Link
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bye bye RTX 2070 super , the 3 week wait for my RTX 3080 will be sad , but hopefully they have made more improvements to nvenc
Nvidia has said encoding hardware is the same as turing. Only decoding is improved (added AV1 decoding).

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Q: Will there be any improvements to the RTX encoder in the Ampere series cards, similar to what we saw for the Turing Release? I did see info on the Broadcast software, but I'm thinking more along the lines of improvements in overall image quality at same bitrate.

For RTX 30 Series, we decided to focus improvements on the video decode side of things and added AV1 decode support. On the encode side, RTX 30 Series has the same great encoder as our RTX 20 Series GPU. We have also recently updated our NVIDIA Encoder SDK. In the coming months, livestream applications will be updating to this new version of the SDK, unlocking new performance options for streamers.
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Would that mean that, if above fix works, I could be lazy and just set output size larger than UHD50 in BDRB and re-run it and it will automagically fix itself?

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Yes. That would likely work -- if you mean running BD-RB against the output of your last run.

The subtitles were working when BD-RB used the previous version of TSMUXER (4k) with the PID set starting at 0x1200. In the meantime a change was made that sets them for HDR to an address starting at 0x12A0. Since I missed that note in the change log -- the CLPI and M2TS created by the new version of TSMUXER (on full backups) has a different PID than the MPLS (which is updated by BD-RB to account for languages that may not have been kept). The problem doesn't exist in movie-only backups.

I've fixed it and will kick out a new version in the next couple of days.
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Yes. That would likely work -- if you mean running BD-RB against the output of your last run.

The subtitles were working when BD-RB used the previous version of TSMUXER (4k) with the PID set starting at 0x1200. In the meantime a change was made that sets them for HDR to an address starting at 0x12A0. Since I missed that note in the change log -- the CLPI and M2TS created by the new version of TSMUXER (on full backups) has a different PID than the MPLS (which is updated by BD-RB to account for languages that may not have been kept). The problem doesn't exist in movie-only backups.

I've fixed it and will kick out a new version in the next couple of days.
That was exactly what I meant

Great, thanks!

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Looks like I'll have to wait until the RTX-3090 is released to find out if the driver for the RTX-30xx series still supports win7-64.
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Hi

trying to convert a 2160p mkv to a 25 gig bluray but it keeps failing where am i going wrong ??

[14:30:30] Importing MKV: test
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, EAC3 to AC3...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[14:32:15]ERROR: Failed to build BD structure. Aborted.

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trying to convert a 2160p mkv to a 25 gig bluray but it keeps failing
H.264 or H.265 source? Looking Blu-ray standard or UHD standard?

JDobbs is working on h.265 to UHD.

A note to JDobbs: When doing the h.265/UHD version, do not convert EAC3 to AC3. While my 4k BD player refuses to play EAC3 files, it will play EAC3 when on a UHD disc. I did a test using TSmuxer to create a BD ISO and that disc played just fine. The Sony player even said that it was a UHD disc, which surprised me. I didn't expect TSmuxer to create a UHD disc.
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H.264 or H.265 source? Looking Blu-ray standard or UHD standard?

JDobbs is working on h.265 to UHD.

A note to JDobbs: When doing the h.265/UHD version, do not convert EAC3 to AC3. While my 4k BD player refuses to play EAC3 files, it will play EAC3 when on a UHD disc. I did a test using TSmuxer to create a BD ISO and that disc played just fine. The Sony player even said that it was a UHD disc, which surprised me. I didn't expect TSmuxer to create a UHD disc.
yes its a h265 source and im wanting it to a 25 gig bluray standard
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Odds are this is the issue... bad source.
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yes its a h265 source and im wanting it to a 25 gig bluray standard
Any chance you can find an H.264 MKV source?
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Any chance you can find an H.264 MKV source?
yes had to resort to a 264 at half the file size , but i guess after re encoding a 265 to 264 ill end up with similar quality anyway
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