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omegaman7 · 7th October 2014, 16:07

Directshow/LAV 0.63 yes.
(The postman) VC-1 streams, TRUE HD audio 640Kbps
(IMMORTALS) AVC streams\ DTS-HD XLL 1509Kbps MA\Core

It was my intention, to find a blu-ray with significantly different streams. I think I found one lol.

I shall attempt to find a different blu with VC-1, and similar audio to Immortals.

jdobbs · 7th October 2014, 16:14

Maybe I missed it, but can you name a commonly available disc that completes out-of-sync? I'd like to try it.

omegaman7 · 7th October 2014, 16:20

I'm afraid Immortals, and The Postman, are currently the only ones tested. I'm about to run SE7EN. It has VC-1 streams, and appears to have an identical audio format to IMMORTALS. Very interested to see the result.

What have you ran in testing? Perhaps I have something you do

Glarioo · 7th October 2014, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by omegaman7

Tried the newest version 0.63 LAV. No luck. Still out of sync.

@ all others testing LAV. How many source BD's have you tried? I've only tried one. I shall try another, that has significantly different audio streams.

Red Dragon (2002) - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
Muppets Most Wanted (2014) - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
Both to MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1

Glarioo · 7th October 2014, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonca

@all
Those having issues with Lav and video/audio sync
Do you have TMT6 installed?
Do you have PDVD installed?

PowerDVD 12.

omegaman7 · 7th October 2014, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glarioo

Red Dragon (2002) & Muppets Most Wanted (2014)
Both to MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1

Are MKV backups generally your preference? I guess I'll have to try that next.

Glarioo, can we see a log of Muppets most wanted? I'm curious what the streams are comprised of.

Glarioo · 7th October 2014, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by omegaman7

Are MKV backups generally your preference? I guess I'll have to try that next.

Glarioo, can we see a log of Muppets most wanted? I'm curious what the streams are comprised of.

All my backups are MKV. Playback with Dune HD Smart H1.
For Muppets Most Wanted is "Track 4357 (nld): Keeping original audio" also out of sync, i've noticed that today

Log at page 1073 #21452

omegaman7 · 7th October 2014, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glarioo

All my backups are MKV. Playback with Dune HD Smart H1.
For Muppets Most Wanted is "Track 4357 (nld): Keeping original audio" also out of sync, i've noticed that today

Log at page 1073 #21452

I don't know if attachments are ever approved lol.

I almost always keep the HD audio. Really depends though.

Glarioo · 7th October 2014, 17:36

jdobbs, for all the LAV hassle...a donation is on the way.

omegaman7 · 7th October 2014, 17:59

Indeed. I have an extra payday this month. Expect a donation from me real soon too.

MajorEvent · 7th October 2014, 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by omegaman7

Jdobbs, I ran "The Postman" last night, and the audio is in complete sync :S

The Postman VC-1 TrueHD5.1
I can confirm this re-encoded and was in sync.

Star Trek Into Darkness MPEG4 (AVC) TrueHD7.1
Re-encoding this one now and will let you know soon.

Non-Stop MPEG4 (AVC) DTS-HD XLL
Out of Sync

I don't have either, Red Dragon or Muppets Most Wanted, but I do have my movie catalog setup with the audio format so I can find specific audio formats quickly. No video format though. I got lucky that Star Trek Into Darkness was MPEG4 (AVC). I re-encoded one other movie that had the out of sync audio but I'm having a senior moment and can't recall what it was,The Signal maybe?

Edit: I'm rolling with LAVFilters 0.62.

MajorEvent · 7th October 2014, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdobbs

I've removed LAV instructions from the first post. They will also be removed from the README.TXT of the next release. Too bad... it was a much more complete solution than FFDSHOW/HAALI.

My experience has been that LAVFilters can be removed by just a regular uninstall so, if you run into the problem, it's pretty easy to recover especially, like most people, they'll install on top of ffdshow and haali.

Maybe just make a mention of the issue until we're sure it can't be resolved. It might be premature to deep six it but it's your call, of course.

omegaman7 · 7th October 2014, 18:48

We're on to something Jdobbs

MajorEvent · 7th October 2014, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorEvent

Star Trek Into Darkness MPEG4 (AVC) TrueHD7.1
Re-encoding this one now and will let you know soon.

Out of Sync

Looking like the problem is the MPEG4 (AVC). Looking for a VC-1 DTS-HD DLL re-encode next.

omegaman7 · 7th October 2014, 19:27

I'm leaning that way myself MajorEvent. Another VC-1 source(SE7EN) has completed, and audio is perfectly within sync. But I find it hard to believe JDobbs only tested VC-1 sources. AVC is an extremely common source.

SE7EN has same/similar audio format as IMMORTALS.

Glarioo · 7th October 2014, 20:52

Red Dragon (2002) - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080, Audio: DTS-HD MA Surround 5.1
Muppets Most Wanted (2014) - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080, Audio 1: DTS-HD HRA Surround 7.1 English, Audio 2: DD 5.1 640 kbps Dutch.
Both out of sync (MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1)

MajorEvent · 7th October 2014, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by omegaman7

I'm leaning that way myself MajorEvent.

I think your result clenches it. MPEG4 (AVC) is the culprit. But I'm confused by the result that the time index and frames aren't different from the source. If the video component is the same length, what could be causing the audio to come in so late?

Quote:

Originally Posted by omegaman7

Another VC-1 source(SE7EN) has completed, and audio is perfectly within sync...SE7EN has same/similar audio format as IMMORTALS.

Is there some reason you just don't say what the audio format is?

Quote:

Originally Posted by omegaman7

But I find it hard to believe JDobbs only tested VC-1 sources. AVC is an extremely common source.

Most Likely there's something between his setup and ours that makes a difference. For example, do you have PowerDVD installed?

Glarioo · 7th October 2014, 21:01

I've got Power DVD 12 installed.

MajorEvent · 7th October 2014, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glarioo

Red Dragon (2002) - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080, Audio: DTS-HD MA Surround 5.1
Muppets Most Wanted (2014) - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080, Audio 1: DTS-HD HRA Surround 7.1 English, Audio 2: DD 5.1 640 kbps Dutch.
Both out of sync (MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1)

Even the DD5.1 (is out of sync)? Seems like it affects all audio formats when combined with MPEG4 (AVC) re-encodes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glarioo

I've got Power DVD 12 installed.

I saw you mentioned that and was why I asked about it specifically.

mparade · 7th October 2014, 21:11

@jdobbs

Is it possible a bug?:

After selecting "Alternate Movie-Only Output" mode and deselecting "Output BD or AVCHD Compliant Structure" and choosing any of the mkv containers and getting the encode to complete the lastcmd still includes several command line options (limitations) relating to a BD compliant structure (e.g. --bluray-compat --ref 4).

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omegaman7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA, Oregon Posts: 791	Directshow/LAV 0.63 yes. (The postman) VC-1 streams, TRUE HD audio 640Kbps (IMMORTALS) AVC streams\ DTS-HD XLL 1509Kbps MA\Core It was my intention, to find a blu-ray with significantly different streams. I think I found one lol. I shall attempt to find a different blu with VC-1, and similar audio to Immortals. __________________ Only one rooster, need be in the hen house... Last edited by omegaman7; 7th October 2014 at 16:10.

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jdobbs Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 21,095	Maybe I missed it, but can you name a commonly available disc that completes out-of-sync? I'd like to try it. __________________ Help with development of new apps: Donations. Website: www.jdobbs.net

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omegaman7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA, Oregon Posts: 791	I'm afraid Immortals, and The Postman, are currently the only ones tested. I'm about to run SE7EN. It has VC-1 streams, and appears to have an identical audio format to IMMORTALS. Very interested to see the result. What have you ran in testing? Perhaps I have something you do __________________ Only one rooster, need be in the hen house...

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Glarioo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 148	jdobbs, for all the LAV hassle...a donation is on the way. Last edited by Glarioo; 7th October 2014 at 17:40.

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omegaman7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA, Oregon Posts: 791	Indeed. I have an extra payday this month. Expect a donation from me real soon too. __________________ Only one rooster, need be in the hen house...

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omegaman7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA, Oregon Posts: 791	We're on to something Jdobbs __________________ Only one rooster, need be in the hen house...

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omegaman7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA, Oregon Posts: 791	I'm leaning that way myself MajorEvent. Another VC-1 source(SE7EN) has completed, and audio is perfectly within sync. But I find it hard to believe JDobbs only tested VC-1 sources. AVC is an extremely common source. SE7EN has same/similar audio format as IMMORTALS. __________________ Only one rooster, need be in the hen house... Last edited by omegaman7; 7th October 2014 at 19:29.

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Glarioo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 148	Red Dragon (2002) - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080, Audio: DTS-HD MA Surround 5.1 Muppets Most Wanted (2014) - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080, Audio 1: DTS-HD HRA Surround 7.1 English, Audio 2: DD 5.1 640 kbps Dutch. Both out of sync (MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1)

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Glarioo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 148	I've got Power DVD 12 installed.

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mparade Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 577	@jdobbs Is it possible a bug?: After selecting "Alternate Movie-Only Output" mode and deselecting "Output BD or AVCHD Compliant Structure" and choosing any of the mkv containers and getting the encode to complete the lastcmd still includes several command line options (limitations) relating to a BD compliant structure (e.g. --bluray-compat --ref 4).

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