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Old 28th July 2020, 16:24   #29741  |  Link
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Tried it but no success... error message is the same
BUT ... when I delete "--bframes 3" from the string, it works ...
The failed signature message is still there but no malloc error ... and I see progress

Is there anything more I can do to localize the issue?
The signature thing is no big deal -- it just bothers me that they do it without asking or being told to do so.

The weird thing is that adding the "--bframes 3" is actually redundant. The default value is 3. I only use it in the command line because I like to be explicit on values that are outlined in the standard.

While it is running, can you open up Task Manager, click on "Details", and then on CPU (so it orders by CPU usage) and see how much memory X264.exe is using?
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While it is running, can you open up Task Manager, click on "Details", and then on CPU (so it orders by CPU usage) and see how much memory X264.exe is using?
The H.264 Process uses roughly 3GB

Meanwhile I installed BDRB freshly on a VM and there I have no issues on the same settings (I didn't try more, as that one is really slow) and the process uses around 800MB. Autocrop is also working...

So my encoding machine seems to be messed up somehow
Sorry for all the trouble...
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The H.264 Process uses roughly 3GB

Meanwhile I installed BDRB freshly on a VM and there I have no issues on the same settings (I didn't try more, as that one is really slow) and the process uses around 800MB. Autocrop is also working...

So my encoding machine seems to be messed up somehow
Sorry for all the trouble...
Interesting. On my system it is using about 2.5GB when it is executing an x264 reencode of a 2160p source. That is on a system that has a total memory amount of 8GB.

I wonder what is causing the difference? I have to guess that x264 is allocating memory based on what is available -- and somehow it might be making a mistake or pushing it to a "too much" point. The other possibility might be an issue with your memory. I've see it happen before where glitches go away by simply removing and reseating the memory modules (I've experienced that one personally). But, you'd think that would show somewhere else as well (unless other apps are never needing that much memory and the "glitch" point is never being reached).
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Howls Moving Castle

I'm having a problem with Howls Moving Castle. Options are Alternative Output, h265, auto-aac, mkv. Notice the Duration in the 4 sections.

Code:
$ mediainfo HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE.mkv 
General
Unique ID                                : 210199344552902314261481553146180215470 (0x9E22EBD388AAA84F99D8BF2B39BF22AE)
Complete name                            : HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 2.43 GiB
Duration                                 : 3 h 53 min
Overall bit rate                         : 1 490 kb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-07-26 21:09:42
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v9.7.1 ('Pandemonium') 32bit
Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.4 + libmatroska v1.4.5

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L4@Main
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate                                 : 2 600 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (23976/1000) FPS
Original frame rate                      : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.052
Stream size                              : 2.17 GiB (89%)
Writing library                          : x265 3.1.2+1-76650bab70f9:[Windows][GCC 9.1.1][64 bit] 10bit
Encoding settings                        : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=3 / numa-pools=8 / wpp / 
no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=1920x1080 / 
interlace=0 / total-frames=0 / level-idc=0 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=3 / 
no-allow-non-conformance / no-repeat-headers / annexb / no-aud / no-hrd / info / hash=0 / 
no-temporal-layers / open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=240 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / 
b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=20 / lookahead-slices=6 / scenecut=40 /
 radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / 
max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=0 / 
dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / 
no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=1 / 
no-limit-modes / me=1 / subme=2 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / weightp / 
no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=0:0 / sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=3 / 
early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / 
rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=0.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / 
crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf / crf=23.7 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / 
ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / 
no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / 
overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=2 / transfer=2 / colormatrix=2 / 
chromaloc=0 / display-window=0cll=0,0 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / 
log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / 
no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / 
no-aq-motion / no-hdr / no-hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / 
analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=0 / 
refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / 
copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / 
no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : A_AAC-2
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate                                 : 277 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 237 MiB (10%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

Text #1
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : PGS
Muxing mode                              : zlib
Codec ID                                 : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                            : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                                 : 3 h 49 min
Bit rate                                 : 10.8 kb/s
Count of elements                        : 2845
Stream size                              : 17.7 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

Text #2
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : PGS
Muxing mode                              : zlib
Codec ID                                 : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                            : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                                 : 3 h 53 min
Bit rate                                 : 7 807 b/s
Count of elements                        : 2062
Stream size                              : 13.0 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

Menu
00:00:00.000                             : en:00:00:00.000
00:01:09.069                             : en:00:01:09.069
00:05:03.302                             : en:00:05:03.302
00:12:27.037                             : en:00:12:27.037
00:18:27.397                             : en:00:18:27.397
00:23:21.691                             : en:00:23:21.691
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00:33:18.287                             : en:00:33:18.287
00:40:14.703                             : en:00:40:14.703
00:45:35.023                             : en:00:45:35.023
00:49:20.248                             : en:00:49:20.248
00:55:30.618                             : en:00:55:30.618
00:58:36.804                             : en:00:58:36.804
01:04:58.185                             : en:01:04:58.185
01:10:58.545                             : en:01:10:58.545
01:15:28.815                             : en:01:15:28.815
01:20:30.116                             : en:01:20:30.116
01:25:26.412                             : en:01:25:26.412
01:32:35.841                             : en:01:32:35.841
01:38:39.204                             : en:01:38:39.204
01:44:26.551                             : en:01:44:26.551
01:48:27.792                             : en:01:48:27.792
01:52:24.028                             : en:01:52:24.028
01:54:43.209                             : en:01:54:43.209
01:59:27.201                             : en:01:59:27.201
The movie is only 1:59, but in General its 3:53, its like its doubling the time the Text Durations, then using the longest time from Video, Audio & Text for the General Duration. This was made with BD-61.05.

Ive deleted the temp files but if necessary & can run it again & include them.

Thanks.

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Old 28th July 2020, 23:24   #29745  |  Link
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Howls Moving Castle

Here's a mediainfo on the BD source.

Code:
C:\BD_Rebuilder61.05\Tools>MediaInfo.exe c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE
General
Complete name                            : c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE
Format                                   : Blu-ray movie
Format profile                           : BD-Java
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Overall bit rate                         : 1 b/s

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 3 178 kb/s
Nominal bit rate                         : 3 000 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Stream size                              : 2.65 GiB
format_identifier                        : HDMV
Source                                   : 00008.m2ts

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 382 MiB
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
bsid                                     : 6
dialnorm                                 : -27
dialnorm                                 : -27 dB
compr                                    : -0.28
compr                                    : -0.28 dB
acmod                                    : 7
lfeon                                    : 1
dialnorm_Average                         : -27
dialnorm_Average                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -27
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -27
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Count                           : 1877
compr_Average                            : 2.71
compr_Average                            : 2.71 dB
compr_Minimum                            : -9.27
compr_Minimum                            : -9.27 dB
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02 dB
compr_Count                              : 1772
format_identifier                        : AC-3
Source                                   : 00008.m2ts

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 382 MiB
Language                                 : Japanese
Service kind                             : Complete Main
bsid                                     : 6
dialnorm                                 : -27
dialnorm                                 : -27 dB
compr                                    : -0.28
compr                                    : -0.28 dB
acmod                                    : 7
lfeon                                    : 1
dialnorm_Average                         : -27
dialnorm_Average                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -27
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -27
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Count                           : 1877
compr_Average                            : 2.91
compr_Average                            : 2.91 dB
compr_Minimum                            : -8.89
compr_Minimum                            : -8.89 dB
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02 dB
compr_Count                              : 1841
format_identifier                        : AC-3
Source                                   : 00008.m2ts

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 382 MiB
Language                                 : French
Service kind                             : Complete Main
bsid                                     : 6
dialnorm                                 : -27
dialnorm                                 : -27 dB
compr                                    : -0.28
compr                                    : -0.28 dB
acmod                                    : 7
lfeon                                    : 1
dialnorm_Average                         : -27
dialnorm_Average                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -27
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -27
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -27 dB
dialnorm_Count                           : 1877
compr_Average                            : 2.75
compr_Average                            : 2.75 dB
compr_Minimum                            : -8.52
compr_Minimum                            : -8.52 dB
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02 dB
compr_Count                              : 1812
format_identifier                        : AC-3
Source                                   : 00008.m2ts

Text #1
ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Delay relative to video                  : 22 s 105 ms
Language                                 : English
Source                                   : 00008.m2ts

Text #2
ID                                       : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Delay relative to video                  : 11 s 178 ms
Language                                 : English
Source                                   : 00008.m2ts

Text #3
ID                                       : 4610 (0x1202)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Delay relative to video                  : 11 s 178 ms
Language                                 : French
Source                                   : 00008.m2ts

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General
Complete name                            : c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE\CERTIFICATE\app.discroot.crt
File size                                : 766 Bytes

General
Complete name                            : c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE\CERTIFICATE\BACKUP\app.discroot.crt
File size                                : 766 Bytes

General
Complete name                            : c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE\CERTIFICATE\BACKUP\bu.discroot.crt
File size                                : 766 Bytes

General
Complete name                            : c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE\CERTIFICATE\BACKUP\id.bdmv
File size                                : 104 Bytes

General
Complete name                            : c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE\CERTIFICATE\bu.discroot.crt
File size                                : 766 Bytes

General
Complete name                            : c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE\CERTIFICATE\id.bdmv
File size                                : 104 Bytes

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Complete name                            : c:\dvdrip\HOWLS_MOVING_CASTLE\disc.inf
File size                                : 219 Bytes
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I'm having a problem with Howls Moving Castle. Options are Alternative Output, h265, auto-aac, mkv. Notice the Duration in the 4 sections.


The movie is only 1:59, but in General its 3:53, its like its doubling the time the Text Durations, then using the longest time from Video, Audio & Text for the General Duration. This was made with BD-61.05.

Ive deleted the temp files but if necessary & can run it again & include them.

Thanks.
That is a really weird one. The only explanation I can see is that somehow either: 1) The PGS files have something off within them (either in the original or created by TSMUXER during demux). or 2) MKVMERGE is somehow misreading the timestamps in the PGS file when it is creating the MKV.
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@Lathe - Are you using your SSD while encoding? It might wear it out faster, but a spinning platter drive could be a limiting factor. Also, what are you using to decode? On my previous system (FX-8350) I got a 10% bump in performance using x264's internal LAVF versus my vid card. The reason is the internal LAVF is the only way to take advantage of a 64-bit pipe in BD RB. I have to assume a Ryzen 5 would be even better.

@AmigaFuture - Oh, God. I'm glad someone else said it. I'm running two drives with two OS's right now that I swap between. I'm TRYING to ease myself into Win10 and I hate it. It's ugly, bloated and clunky. It'll take forever to root out all the M$ crap and tweak it to function smoothly like Win7.
Hey Bro, sorry to reply so late (Doom9 has NEVER sent prompts of replies) Yeah, I am using my new M2 SSD which I believe plugs directly into the MOBO. Supposed to be pretty fast. Interestingly, since this last comment a month or more ago when I use the x264 CMD line it does seem to utilize the CPU more. I'll hafta go back now and figure out WTH I was talking about
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Still breathing. I haven't spent as much time on BD-RB as I'd like. My dream is to get a GTX1660 so I can work on NVENC encoding, but the wife seems to think we should concentrate on things like food, fuel, clothing and a roof over our head instead. Women. They just don't understand geek economics, do they?
Sorry, just seeing this now, that's great

Food... SO overrated...
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Thanks for posting your tale. In my case its been over FOUR YEARS since my video PC has worked! Loaded with drives of course, and since we moved houses/locations the mobo has refused to come alive. This used to happen when I'd leave it for months in the summer, and it would sometimes balk when re-firing the thing for winter, but now it remains quiet.

I have dreaded the work associated with building a new PC but maybe your experience will inspire me! In the Fall!
Well, I can't really take any credit. There is this shop with these guys who have been here nearby forever who work on computers. So, I gave one of them a quick call, gave them my sad story, basically stated what I wanted hardware wise and what I had, ran the actual parts by him to get his opinion, bought them from Amazon, had him build it.

@AmigaFuture I know, I know about W10, believe me. But, it was just the simplest option for the fellow building it. Otherwise we would be talking about 'ghosting' my old SSD drive and the old OS, etc., etc... It was just WAY more simple to buy the new faster M2 SSD drive from him with W10 already installed and used as the primary OS drive. He didn't even charge me for the OS. It's been fine though. It is really a no-brainer simply using Classic Start easily to get it to look like W7. And, it is just faster. I've never used the 'tiles' and all that crap since W8 anyway. There ARE a few little quirks here and there, but overall it is much faster and sleeker (of course the new generation SSD drive helps I'm sure )
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Sorry, the last Apache update made the webserver case sensitive (again ) ... Since the link points to Avisynth_260.exe but the file is named AviSynth_260.exe you got a 404

I just renamed the file, link should be working now.
Hey, sorry about the late reply, but thanks Bro, appreciate it!
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Wow. When was that posted... I must have missed it completely.

[Edit] Ok, I see. It was part of the "3 frigg'n MONTHS behind" post. I guess I just missed that part.
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but frankly I am skeptical of all of these "extensions" to HDR10 as I think they are getting ridiculous and may in the same category as "HD Audio" (which is nothing beyond a marketing gimmick that has been proven scientifically as nonsense). Of course that comment will likely result in responses from people with "magic ears" who will say how they can tell the difference (even though what they actually hear is increased baseline volume that the marketeers have implemented in HD audio to try and make it appear as if there is an actual difference). Double blind tests show that (other than the additional channels available available in HD formats) Dolby Digital 5.1 at 640Kbs is indistinguishable from an lossless original audio source. Okay, time to step down off my soapbox.
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Old 29th July 2020, 07:43   #29753  |  Link
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That is a really weird one. The only explanation I can see is that somehow either: 1) The PGS files have something off within them (either in the original or created by TSMUXER during demux). or 2) MKVMERGE is somehow misreading the timestamps in the PGS file when it is creating the MKV.
What can I do to help you with this?
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There is a similar problem here which put me to the right direction.
The commandline states "--threads auto" ... that might do for 99% of the systems. But I build that machine mainly for encoding, with 2 Xeon 2699v3, that sum up (with hyperthreading) to 72 threads total.
Every thread of x264 uses a certain amount of RAM, which breaks the memory limitation of 32bit apps

I guess disabling hyperthreading ("--threads 36" is working with 2.8 GB RAM used) will solve the problem for me, but if someone builds a similar system or uses one of the mean AMD Threadrippers, they will also run into that Problem.
[edit] Read a little more: "--threads auto" creates 1.5 times CPU cores threads for encoding... So even with Hyperthreading switched off the encode would fail on my machine

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Uh, I kinda feel bad asking this amongst the more serious cutting edge stuff that you've been working on here (which I've just been catching up on and is truly amazing guys!) But, it's been a while since I used BDRB and I THOUGHT that I remembered that if you input a file that was not BR compliant, say an MKV file with the dimensions of 1920x800, that BDRB would automatically see that and using AVS would add borders to bring it up to compliance. BUT... maybe once you take that MKV file and put it through TSMuxer to put it into a BDMV folder format and THEN input that into BDRB, apparently it does not seem to do that but even setting the output size slightly smaller (to force re-encoding) the dimensions of the resulting m2ts file are unchanged...???

So, is that the deal then, whatever is INSIDE the BDMV folder is left untouched when inputted into BDRB, and borders are not automatically added?

I'm doing it over now and I simply added the AVS script to add borders, and of course in checking the processing .264 file it is now going to be compliant when it is done. I guess I had always thought that BDRB did that automatically with anything out of specification.
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What preset(s) do you use?
And are your sources UHDs or *normal* BDs?
I cant recall if any DVD's imported into BD-RBD ever failed the "auto crop black borders", I think, from memory, maybe there were a few.

However, I mainly do 1080P Blu-ray sources, using X265 to process the encode.

I rough guess would be about 1 in 10 Blu-ray sources fail when "auto crop black borders" is selected.

Again, "from memory" I think I tested one encode with X264 when one encode failed using X265, and I believe it also failed, so both X265 and X264 failed with "auto crop black borders" selected for that encode.

Next encode that fails, I will try both x264 and x265.
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There is a similar problem here which put me to the right direction.
The commandline states "--threads auto" ... that might do for 99% of the systems. But I build that machine mainly for encoding, with 2 Xeon 2699v3, that sum up (with hyperthreading) to 72 threads total.
Every thread of x264 uses a certain amount of RAM, which breaks the memory limitation of 32bit apps

I guess disabling hyperthreading ("--threads 36" is working with 2.8 GB RAM used) will solve the problem for me, but if someone builds a similar system or uses one of the mean AMD Threadrippers, they will also run into that Problem.
[edit] Read a little more: "--threads auto" creates 1.5 times CPU cores threads for encoding... So even with Hyperthreading switched off the encode would fail on my machine
I'll recheck and see if that option is actually necessary. If not I'll remove it, otherwise I'll create a hidden option to remove it.

[Edit] Actually that won't work because the default value is "auto". But... there is a HIDDEN option in BD-RB that will set the number of threads you want to use:

THREADS=n

n is the number of threads to use. The limit is 16. I may have to look at increasing that limit. X264 has a limit of 128, but they say "realistically you should never set it this high".
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Uh, I kinda feel bad asking this amongst the more serious cutting edge stuff that you've been working on here (which I've just been catching up on and is truly amazing guys!) But, it's been a while since I used BDRB and I THOUGHT that I remembered that if you input a file that was not BR compliant, say an MKV file with the dimensions of 1920x800, that BDRB would automatically see that and using AVS would add borders to bring it up to compliance. BUT... maybe once you take that MKV file and put it through TSMuxer to put it into a BDMV folder format and THEN input that into BDRB, apparently it does not seem to do that but even setting the output size slightly smaller (to force re-encoding) the dimensions of the resulting m2ts file are unchanged...???

So, is that the deal then, whatever is INSIDE the BDMV folder is left untouched when inputted into BDRB, and borders are not automatically added?

I'm doing it over now and I simply added the AVS script to add borders, and of course in checking the processing .264 file it is now going to be compliant when it is done. I guess I had always thought that BDRB did that automatically with anything out of specification.
It is not automatically resized or padded during import. So you can have a pseudo-BD structure (thus the name) that contains a video stream that is not resized to be compliant.

But... when you run a job against that structure, the resizing occurs during reencoding and the output is compliant.
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There is no '3D MVC mkv' option AFAIK. However, the Alternate Movie-only output includes a few options for SBS 3D mkv.
Ok thanks for the info.

Does anyone know how to get around the issue when making BD-25 Full backups of 3D movies without the pixelization/artifacts that show up every second of the playback using software players? (I have not seen the issue using a hardware player). But searching the forum I can see it happens to others, but not sure if there ever was a workaround found?
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